In a November 2020 call between Sen. Ted Cruz and Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo, the Texas Republican said Donald Trump’s allies needed “actual evidence” to support the then-president’s election fraud claims if they wanted their challenges to hold up in court.
“They can’t just be, you know, ‘Somebody tweeted that.’ There’s got to be demonstrable facts that can be laid out with evidence because that’s what a court of law is going to look to ― not just an allegation but actual facts,” he said in a recording of the Nov. 7, 2020, call obtained by MSNBC.
Cruz added that he was “hopeful” that Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who led the legal push to overturn the 2020 presidential results, “comes on the show tomorrow and he has some of those facts,” and he added, “I hope the legal team continues to lay out the specific evidence because that’s what it’s going to take to prevail in court.”
Though no such evidence was produced, Cruz went on to lead an effort to block the certification of President Joe Biden’s win, pushing Trump’s lie that the election had been rife with fraud.
MSNBC's @AriMelber has obtained a recording of Sen. Ted Cruz telling Fox Host Maria Bartiromo that they would need "actual facts" to prove allegations of election fraud in court. pic.twitter.com/DYFXfr6ZSX
— nikki mccann ramírez (@NikkiMcR) April 20, 2023
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