Trump lawyer Joe Tacopina struggled to defend false claims by the former president, who is facing a potential indictment regarding his role in the Stormy Daniels scandal.

On MSNBC’s The Beat with Ari Melber Tuesday, Tacopina was asked to address Trump denying a $130,000 payment made to Daniels in 2016 to buy her silence over an alleged affair.

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“He lied about it,” Melber said.

Tacopina countered by claiming that Trump did not lie because the statement was not made under oath. “A lie to me is something material, under oath, in a proceeding,” Tacopina argued.

When Melber clarified that he hadn’t asked if Trump perjured himself, simply if the statements were false, Tacopina scrambled for an explanation. The lawyer stated that “it’s not a lie because it was a confidential settlement. So if he acknowledged that he would be violating the confidential settlement.”

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