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Thursday, October 8, 2026

Does more justice actually require fewer laws? Social justice lawyer David Renton explains why - The Hub

This episode of Hub Dialogues features host Sean Speer in conversation with leading British social justice barrister and activist, David Renton, on his thought-provoking new book, Against the Law: Why Justice Requires Fewer Laws and a Smaller State.

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SEAN SPEER: Welcome to Hub Dialogues. I’m your host Sean Speer, editor-at-large at The Hub. I’m honoured to be joined today by David Renton, who is one of Britain’s leading social justice lawyers with clients that have included Occupy protestors and blacklisted trade unionists. He also writes regularly on law and justice for the Guardian and the London Review of Books.

I’m grateful to speak with him about his thought-provoking new book, Against the Law: Why Justice Requires Fewer Laws and a Smaller State, which somewhat counterintuitively argues, as the book’s title suggests, that fewer laws in a smaller state would actually advance the goals of equity and worker’s rights. David, thanks for joining us at Hub Dialogues, and congratulations on the book.

DAVID RENTON: Thanks so much, Sean. It’s an absolute pleasure to be here.

SEAN SPEER: Let’s start by way of biography. Your online bio describes you as a social justice barrister. Why don’t you tell listeners about you and your worldview? How did you...



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