Open Source AI Foundation co-founder and chair Brittany Kaiser chatted with Axios during the Web Summit in Rio last week on open source AI systems and prospects for a data privacy law.

Why it matters: Kaiser was a Cambridge Analytica whistleblower and served at the Commerce Department.

• She's also president of the Own Your Data Foundation and chief strategy officer for Eliza Systems, a new initiative to lobby the Trump administration around upcoming AI legislation that would mandate all government technology be open source.
• It's a subsidiary of Eliza Labs, which provides decentralized AI technology.

This conversation has been edited and condensed for clarity.

Eliza Systems is your latest venture — what problem are you solving that wasn't already being addressed?

So for Eliza Systems, our huge opportunity is to offer ethical, transparent, open source AI systems as governments are starting to adopt it right now.

• There are a lot of different companies that are competing for these contracts.
• Right now, most of them that are winning the contracts are closed source companies where we have no idea how the technology functions or how the data is being used.
• Usually when open source systems are built out, they're built in order to keep all of the data where it is, which would be a much better way for the government to actually function right now.

How are you thinking of this in relation to DOGE and its handling of data?

I think a lot of people are worried that with ... DOGE...

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